Wiki How:Articles for deletion/Ido Bassok

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The result was delete. The only "keep" opinion consists only of the words "ACUM prize winner", but does not explain how this makes the subject notable in terms of applicable guidelines. Sandstein 17:42, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ido Bassok edit

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This draft was tagged for notability a year ago by User:PK650. In January this year User:DGG first decline the submission, and now few days ago accepted it and published but without removing the notability tag (as well as the "reads like a press release tag...)? I have to say the draft process boggles the mind out of me (isn't it supposed to stop such low quality content from being published until the creator fixes the issues?), but anyway, as this was still tagged when it appeared on my new articles patrol list, I reviewed it and I couldn't find any in-depth coverage, and GScholar shows next to no citations for his work, so this is a WP:PROF failure. There are some unreferenced claims of awards, and maybe better sources exist in Hebrew? Let's discuss. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:22, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:22, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 05:24, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Toughpigs (talk) 17:35, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I accepted, because the only realistic chance of improvement is bringing it here. I know that's not the intended purpose of AfD , but it sometimes does work. We need a solution to improveable articles languishing at AfC. (consequently, I used not to accept unless the likelihood of an accepted article was >90%, but now I use 75%. There's no formal standard except "likely" . DGG ( talk ) 05:27, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @DGG: I actually think that improving an article should be a purpose of AfDs, but anyway, if you think it is needed, why not list it here yourself? Heck, even drafts can be AfD and often are. Why just move it to the main space and leave it there, if you think it is likely not suitable for the mainspace in the current form? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:22, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I decided to bring it here rather than judge it myself, as it deals with a poet in a language I do not read. DGG ( talk ) 10:01, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

{U|Piotrus}}, sometimes I do just that. For all the years we;ve known each other, I have kept experimenting with all the multitudinous options in WP to screen articles and to get them improved, and to improve them. None will ever work perfectly,; none is right one in all cases--I like to keep trying the various opt'ons. Of course not all experiemtns work, but I feel I have to keep trying. DGG ( talk ) 05:47, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I did a little digging into the list of awards, mentioned in the nom. The Leah Goldberg prize is awarded by the same university that this person attended and did his master's at. The award is not searchable on the university's website so I don't know the criteria but it doesn't seem to have its own website. The other prizes sound similarly very local, save the "Palme Académique – Title of knighthood from the government of France, 2003": this sounds like a big deal but at the time he received it, they were awarding over 7500 a year. asnac (talk) 09:55, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:06, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete a non-notable poet.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:46, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I checked ProQuest - at least at first glance the 7 hits there seem to be citations of Bassok rather than coverage of him or his works. Haukur (talk) 19:53, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 18:07, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep ACUM prize winner. YairMelamed (talk) 18:58, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This is a bit hard to follow (I don't read Hebrew), he is a poet, and he has received local awards, but is nebulous on the international stage. This reads very much like promotional material, and I suspect this page is the work of someone's thesis, the way in which it is scribed. --Whiteguru (talk) 06:27, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.