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I had been writing nonsense about Basic English here yesterday and now erase it. But the pdf link shows only blank pages (my fault?).--Radh (talk) 00:49, 21 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi there! If you should run out of names, please write something about Henry Voth (Mennonist missionari and Hopi linguist and anthropologist and Kodak no. 1 photographer), not a nice guy, but important. I will do something about Matthews this weekend (my bloody labtop exploded two days ago and this thing I use now goes dark every 10 minutes or so, so have to think about something there).--Radh (talk) 19:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

I guess I can do not much more on Voth at the moment, have to read Trotta first. But i am glad you forced me to do some useful work here for a change. If you are interested in old photographs, some Hopi, here is a link to an italian exposition of Aby Warburg photos [1](met Voth at Oraibi in 1895)

"Wondering what the rationale for redirecting Hidatsa language to Mandan, Hidatsa, and Arikara Nation is?" There was none, which is why I deleted the redirect. --Golbez (talk) 18:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Jonathan Meades, an english essayist once cited a nasty remark made by a lowlife friend to a girlfiend: "And what does a slug like you know about Mozart". User Babbage is a great guy, he also seems to know a lot about linguists and anthropologists and so please wouldn't it be nice if people who obviously do not know anything about those topics leave him well alone.--Radh (talk) 10:54, 10 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the kind words Radh. I already removed the proposed deletion template from the article; anyone who is familiar with the huge field of Athabascan linguistics will recognize his importance immediately. babbage (talk) 15:34, 10 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Very glad to hear that.--Radh (talk) 15:54, 10 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Do you read German? Just found a very good article on Eugene Buechel, S. J. and Dakota linguist on Wikipedia.de.--Radh (talk) 06:01, 13 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Would you by any chance know of any (lesser known) students of Boas? Some guys on german WP have started to work on Boas, his family and his very famous and some not that famous students (Esther Goldfrank, Elsie Parsons). They have pretty much covered the lot. I have started making notes on Ruth Bunzel, Gene Weltfish and Jane Belo (whom I for one knew nothing about).

But if you know of people like Belo on top of your head, it would be nice. Or if you know of any useful frely available Anthropologists sites, that might be useful here. I still have no really useful library at hand.

Anyway, I am glad you have come back to WP, I have concentrated on the german WP in the last months and was really afraid you might have had it.--Radh (talk) 08:27, 6 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

I saw you're listed as a translator of Portuguese-English on Wikipedia. I wanted to ask for help with Ram Narayan, which is really bare. Would you be so kind to translate the introduction from English into Portuguese? Thank you very much! Hekerui (talk) 22:54, 16 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi Hekerui, Ram Narayan is a very nice article, I wish I could translate the whole thing to Portuguese; however, I'm not a native speaker of Portuguese, so I'm better at translating from Portuguese to English. I could probably produce something comprehensible at least (and useful as a base for native speakers to correct on pt.wikipedia.org), but it would take me a really long time to do the whole thing. I would be willing to try to do a couple sections, though. Which sections do you think would be most worth the effort? babbage 04:53, 17 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Just the introduction, it summarizes the article. Thank you! Hekerui (talk) 08:38, 17 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks!! Hekerui (talk) 09:13, 5 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi, since you have a language background, would you be willing to look over this article whenever you get the time? I created it since I thought it was a glaring omission, but I do not have any background in linguistics. Any improvements/corrections appreciated. Cheers, -Uyvsdi (talk) 21:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)UyvsdiReply

Regarding this addition, could you give me the exact quote please? I thought that BHS and classical Sanskrit were roughly the same age. Thanks, Mitsube (talk) 20:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Hi there, I guess there is a science for everything, for social maps see Otto Neurath and his artist Gerd Arntz. I rather like your color sense (although I would say that?). Ralf.--Radh (talk) 07:10, 3 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I've proposed merging (really, re-directing) the Wak article, which you created, to Waaq. Please see my comments at Talk:Waaq. Is there anything in "Wak" that you feel does, or does not belong, in "Waaq"? I believe they are about the same subject, though until now I did not know about the Ugandan usage. Thanks, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:46, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

I understand you removed my contributions to Essie Pinola Parrish. What did I do wrong? I added a link to where I got the information from, so I did not copyright. Did I cite incorrectly or is there a Wikipedia standard I am unaware of? Please help so I do not make the same mistake in the future! It saddens me that there is only one sentance about that great Kashaya Pomo woman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by -UniteTheWorld- (talk • contribs) 01:59, 17 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Babbage: You're currently working on the Hupa language article, and there's something that's been in the article for a long time that I'd often wondered about and now believe to be incorrect. Specifically, the claim about the paucity of nouns in the language is incorrect: "Morphologically, it is remarkable for having an extremely small number— perhaps less than one hundred— of basic (monomorphemic) nouns, as nearly all nouns in the language are derived from verbs." This is demonstrably false as the 1905 Goddard reference shows 130 nouns straight off the bat in the first 20 pages. (Not all are morphophonemic, but the non-compound morphemes for the obligately affixed nouns seem to all be unique.) Furthermore there is discussion of verb nominalization on page 21-23 and while the morphology seems to be more elaborated than in Western Indo-European languages, it's nothing as dramatically novel as this statement, certainly not showing that "nearly all nouns in the language are derived from verbs." Part of my eagerness to get rid of the statement is that it's not referenced.

I left this comment here because the Hupa article doesn't seem to get a lot of traffic. I'm a new Wikipedian so I don't know the etiquette; should I go ahead and make the change or is it better for me to go through someone who has a long-term commitment to the article like yourself? Thanks.Michaeldcaton (talk) 21:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Hi there Babbage! (Do you want to keep your real name secret here?) This is Brook. Good to see you on Wiki! I mostly work on the Zapotec pages. No where near as devoted as you! Impressive :) Blillehaugen (talk) 01:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Dear Sir I find you is discussion forum at Hindkowan page. In my opinion, District Indkai and Faryab province seems to be place of Migration of Indki (Hindki) to recent location. They migrated to recent places alongth with Baluchs and Pashtu speaker. and Pashtun call them Inkai as singular and Indki as plural perhaps with the reference of their previous location as later they lost their native language. Some how they got segregated by main tribes because of change in native language.The same happend with Niazi's and Baluch's of D.G.khan when they married local girls so there is possibility of change in native language but important is blood line and the tribes speaking Indko dialects share some Jew wedding and funeral customs throughout Pakistan, in addition to Islamic customs which resembles them more with Afghans as compared to Indian tribes. if it is derived from Hind Why Hindki term is not used for Punjabi's of lahore. Culturally these tribes are more close to Pashtun and Baluch. It is strange while that within punjab the indentity with Hindko is seldom found and commonly used word in history for a country is is Bharat instead of Hindostan. Most of Historian confused their origin with by using incorrectly the using the word Hindki . please oblige me with your opinion?Zarrigul (talk) 14:31, 16 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

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