 | L. K. Advani was nominated as a Social sciences and society good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (June 19, 2024, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. |
 | L. K. Advani is currently a Politics and government good article nominee. Nominated by Magentic Manifestations (talk) at 14:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC) An editor has indicated a willingness to review the article in accordance with the good article criteria. Further reviews are welcome from any editor who has not contributed significantly to this article (or nominated it), and can be added to the review page, but the decision whether or not to list the article as a good article should be left to the first reviewer. Short description: 7th Deputy Prime Minister of India |
| This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the L. K. Advani article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies |
| Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
| Archives: 1, 2 |
 | This article is written in Indian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, analysed, defence) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
| This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
 | This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
 | The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan, which has been designated as a contentious topic. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wiki How, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page. |
Material on resignation
editAdvani has not stated anywhere that his decision to step down was related to Narendra Modi's elevation. That is clearly speculation by the journalist and does not have sufficient weight to be included on a biography of a living person. — Nearly Headless Nick {c} 18:51, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
OR tag
editI just tagged the "Rise of the BJP"section for OR, because it contains statements about the discontent with the congress and such that have no citations. Vanamonde93 (talk) 11:35, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Statue of Patel
editIs the fact that Advani inaugurated the statue of Patel really necessary? Okay, it is a tall statue, but why is that important to this man's bio? If I do not see a reasonable explanation, I propose to delete said section. Vanamonde93 (talk) 00:06, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Pictures
editRonanin, we really don't need that many pictures of Advani and various dignitaries. Could you please explain your rationale for adding as many as you have? Vanamonde93 (talk) 19:43, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
- Ronanin, Precisely why are you ignoring this message? You've edited this page after I posted this. Vanamonde93 (talk) 03:37, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Controversies
editSurely there should be a section related to controversies? Advani is well known to have been implicated in the babri masjid demolition and this page completely avoids this.
External links modified
editHello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on L. K. Advani. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://www.webcitation.org/69a8Ajp22?url=http://164.100.47.132/LssNew/Members/Biography.aspx?mpsno=9 to http://164.100.47.132/LssNew/Members/Biography.aspx?mpsno=9
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 22:11, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
External links modified
editHello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on L. K. Advani. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20041205130246/http://www.bjp.org/leader/advaniji.htm to http://www.bjp.org/leader/advaniji.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 06:58, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
External links modified
editHello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on L. K. Advani. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120121102810/http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Muslims-can-never-forgive-Kalyan-over-Babri-issue/419656/ to http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Muslims-can-never-forgive-Kalyan-over-Babri-issue/419656/
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090122210136/http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web/pIe/ie/daily/19980303/06250324.html to http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web/pIe/ie/daily/19980303/06250324.html
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090123230406/http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web/pIe/ie/daily/19980916/25951004.html to http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web/pIe/ie/daily/19980916/25951004.html
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120626120403/http://www.janchetnayatra.com/index/about-jan-chetna-yatra/ to http://www.janchetnayatra.com/index/about-jan-chetna-yatra/
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 17:13, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion
editThe following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
.svg){kind=link}
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 08:01, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
.svg){kind=link}
A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion
editThe following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 08:08, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
GA Review
edit| GA toolbox |
|---|
| Reviewing |
- This review is transcluded from Talk:L. K. Advani/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Magentic Manifestations (talk · contribs) 14:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Reviewer: Kavyansh.Singh (talk · contribs) 19:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
I'm sorry I have to do this, but I am convinced that the article does not meet WP:GA?#3a and hence I am compelled to quick fail it. With 11285 characters (1922 words) of readable prose size, the article is not broad in its coverage, especially for a politician of stature of Advani. And let me make it clear, the word count is just an example, I am not basing my decision entirely on this basis. Lets see. Advani served as the Home Minister and the Deputy Prime Minister from 1998 to 2004, a key position in Indian politics and a role important in basing a lot of governmental decisions. We describe this aspect of his life in a grand total of 112 words:
- "In the 1998 general election, the BJP-led National Democratic Alliance (NDA), came to power with Vajpayee returning as Prime Minister in March 1998. Advani was elected to the Lok Sabha for the third term and became the Home Minister. However, the government again collapsed after only thirteen months when All Indian Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (AIADMK) under J. Jayalalitha withdrew its support to the government. With fresh elections being called, the BJP led NDA again won a majority in the 1999 general election and Advani won from Gandhinagar for the fourth term. He assumed the office of Home Minister and was later elevated to the position of Deputy Prime Minister in 2002."
Really! This seems more like a timeline. What did he do in those years, what official decisions did he take in that capacity? What were the implications of those decisions? What do modern scholars claim about Advani's tenure as home minister? Why was he elevated as the dept. PM? Was there any political pressure on Vajpayee to do so? What was Advani's role in the 1999 elections? Did he campaign? If so, what issues did he raise during the campaign? What do modern scholars have to say about his role in NDA's victory in '99? This is just an example. The same argument can be made for almost every paragraph. We have a sub-section titled '2009-15: Prime Minister candidacy and later years', but 50 percent on content within it discusses of events that took place before 2009.
I feel that the article needs to be re-written top-to-bottom, more printed text (books, journals, etc) needs to be cited to make it comprehensive. Comprehensiveness is what matters, the character count is just a mere number, but I feel that an article on such a subject can rarely be comprehensive below 45-50 K characters. Feel free to ask me to re-review the article whenever the above mentioned issues are duly dealt with! Thanks for all your work on Wikipedia. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 19:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)